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The Box and The Rock (WAS Re: You Can Tune a Piano - Encantado)

by tdciago <tdciago@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 1, 2008 at 12:13 PM

On Apr 1, 1:41=EF=BF=BDpm, thinbluemime <thinbluem...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Bottom Line: Several Lost fans seem to be able to hear the word,
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> 'Encantado', in a whisper, during the Juliet-Harper rain scene of 'The
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> Other Woman'.

S1E18 Lenny: Well, you shouldn't have done that. You've opened the
box!
S2E4 Starla: You're messing with my world view here, Hugo. You're my
rock. I mean if you quit your job the next thing you know bees will
stop making honey, and flowers will die, and hell, the whole damn
thing will fall apart.

"The returnee from the underwater world - similarities in Amazon and
Japanese legends"
http://www.colorq.org/Articles/article.aspx?d=3Dlore&x=3Dturtledolphin

In the Japanese legend of Ura****ma Taro, a turtle carries a young man
to the magical undersea kingdom, where he is welcomed by a beautiful
princess. The princess is a magic animal (in some versions of the
tale, she is a dragon; in others, she is a turtle) who shape-****fts
into human form to keep company with Ura****ma Taro. For a while, Taro
lives in this underwater world which is not unlike own, only more
splendid and more beautiful. One day, he is seized by a desire to
visit his home. Reluctantly, his hostess sends him on his way. She
gives him a box and tells him that if he wished to return to the
underwater palace, he should not to open the box under any
cir***stances. Back in the human world, the hero inevitably opens the
box. He is instantly transformed into a white-haired old man, more
ancient than anyone had ever seen. The box contained all the years of
his life that had gone by while he lived in the underwater world - it
turned out that hundreds of years have passed on land during the brief
time he spent in the undersea palace.

The indigenous people of the Amazon also have a tradition concerning
an enchanted world under the waters of the Amazon. Brazilian and
Peruvian lore ascribe shape-****fting abilities to the pink river
dolphins who take humans to the sub-aquatic realm called Encante. Like
the Japanese shape****fters, the Amazonian shape-****fters can take
human form and seduce or marry humans. A native Peruvian guide related
the following story in Journey of the Pink Dolphins:

One time, at the mouth of the Napo River, a young man's boat
disappeared, and his family was devastated. But just a little while
later, the young man appeared to his mother in a dream. "All is well,"
he told his mother. "I am married to a beautiful girl who is a
princess. I live underwater, in a beautiful city."... For twenty
years, he lived happily under the water, but one day, he told his
wife, the princess, that he would like to visit his mother and sister
on the land. His wife told him, "Until you return to me, I will give
you a little rock, and it is your life. Please don't lose it." So the
young man came to visit his mother and sister... But one night... he
lost the stone. The following morning, his mother found him dead in
his hammock. His hair had turned white, like an old man's.

In addition to the obvious similarities between the two narratives - a
journey to an underwater realm, a marriage to a shape****fting
princess, the return to land, a human life tied to single enchanted
object, the hero's inevitable disobedience and his resulting
transformation and death - there are some similar concepts about the
underwater world in both the Japanese and Peruvian traditions. As in
Japanese lore, Peruvian lore pictures the underwater realm to be
similar to, but superior to the human world. The Peruvian guide in
Journey of the Pink Dolphins explained: "The shamans say life in the
water is same as here, but better... People live longer there; one
month underwater is the same as a year here." The Japanese tale of
Uru****ma also illustrates the idea that time in the underwater realm
p***** differently from time on land.
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You Can Tune a Piano - Encantado
thinbluemime <thinblue  2008-04-01 17:41:44 
Re: You Can Tune a Piano - Encantado
tdciago <tdciago@[EMAI  2008-04-01 11:28:01 
Re: You Can Tune a Piano - Encantado
thinbluemime <thinblue  2008-04-01 18:39:10 
Re: You Can Tune a Piano - Encantado
tdciago <tdciago@[EMAI  2008-04-01 11:56:19 
Re: You Can Tune a Piano - Encantado
thinbluemime <thinblue  2008-04-01 16:18:54 
Re: You Can Tune a Piano - Encantado
tdciago <tdciago@[EMAI  2008-04-02 20:38:28 
The Box and The Rock (WAS Re: You Can Tune a Piano - Encantado)
tdciago <tdciago@[EMAI  2008-04-01 12:13:01 
Re: The Box and The Rock (WAS Re: You Can Tune a Piano - Encanta
thinbluemime <thinblue  2008-04-01 16:24:02 
Re: The Box and The Rock (WAS Re: You Can Tune a Piano - Encanta
tenworld <ten@[EMAIL P  2008-04-01 16:36:09 
Re: The Box and The Rock (WAS Re: You Can Tune a Piano - Encanta
thinbluemime <thinblue  2008-04-01 20:12:29 
Re: The Box and The Rock (WAS Re: You Can Tune a Piano - Encanta
tdciago <tdciago@[EMAI  2008-04-01 17:24:23 

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