On Apr 1, 3:00=A0pm, byo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Again, I'm more than a little puzzled by your thought process on this
> type of thing. =A0Given your decision that "Are they still alive?" is a
> reference to a secret (to us) assignment given to Hugo, why is it more
> plausible to you (presumably more plausible by a comfortable margin,
> given your willingness to base public predictions on it) that it was
> an assignment to kill people rather than save them? =A0The question "Are
> they still alive?" works equally well in both cases, as does Charlie's
> statement.
Of course it does, if "works" be taken to mean "would be a plausible
statement". So here I have to turn to the question of what would make
for a better show.
My base assumption is that "Lost" is tricky. Its makers will take
opp'ties to hide meanings from the audience while dangling incorrect
inferences close to the surface for use to bite at. I think that in
this case, as previously when Locke was visited by Boone in his on-
island sweat lodge, an ostensible inquiry or instruction about
someone's welfare was actually an instruction to rub out someone who
was a threat to the conspiracy.
I take Hugo and Sayid to have the same interest in protecting their
secret, and infer that they would use similar methods. And what would
be a better mind**** for the audience than ostensibly mild-mannered
Hugo as assassin? (However, I think he's trying to avoid that role.)
Also, I can't think offhand of what other help "they" would "need"
from Hugo.
I reject the idea that Abaddon would be inquiring as to whether anyone
was left alive on the island because I don't view it as a place of
particular danger to his friends. It'd be like asking, "Are they
still alive back in Los Angeles?"
>=A0In fact, Charlie's fits a little better if Hugo's secret
> assignment was to protect people, insofar as the concept of "need"
> better fits people in danger of being killed than people in danger of
> not having the people they want killed killed.
In what way do you imagine Hugo could protect people per se? Protect
their secrets, sure, but that's not a matter of doing something, but
of NOT doing something, as when Jack asked whether Hugo was thinking
of "telling". Seriously, about the only way one could protect a
competent, aware adult would be by restraining someone else who was a
threat to hir, and the only practical way to do that, if you don't
have a Gitmo or The Village hidden away somewhere, is to kill the
threatening person(s).
> If the question is all you're basing this prediction on, then you're
> just the guy in front of the Keno machine, coming up with byzantine
> math that explains each past game in hopes of predicting the next one,
> and that (like so much around Keno) is more sad than interesting, so
> I'll assume there's more - so what I'm curious about is, if you follow
> back the chain of deductions that led to this one, do you *ever* hit
> something that's been presented clearly and unequivocally as part of
> the television show "Lost"?
Eko did die in the vicinity of Locke, and, I believe, as manipulated
by Locke. I had predicted Eko would be rubbed out.
But as to the flashforwards and the Oceanic 6, although they might not
be so directly in the chain of reasoning that leads to Hugo as
assassin (or at least requested to be an assassin), I wrote waaay back
in Sept. '05, just before season 2 began, in relevant part:
"You may have intermediate cases in which somebody...will find out too
much and have to be silenced by `accident'. Some may simply outlive
their usefulness and become liabilities in some other way. Anyway,
the Fellow****p that remains will somehow have to be `rescued' from
Craphole without ever finding out where they were. In keeping with
the m.o. of Lost...whatever physical evidence they discover in the
Hatch or elsewhere will soon be blown up or otherwise destroyed except
for a few tokens. You can't take the chance that the outside world
will discover Craphole and its backstage secrets.... Therefore the
Losties must reintegrate to the world separately and keep their
distance from each other, except in secret. Some of them will require
no persuading to take on new identities...while others will resume
their previous personae. They will make up their own cover stories to
explain their absence."
I'd like to see someone else's predictions from back then as against
mine. If I'm playing Keno, my machine pays off pretty well.
Robert
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