On 2 Apr, 03:36, robg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> On Apr 1, 3:00=A0pm, byo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>
> > Again, I'm more than a little puzzled by your thought process on this
> > type of thing. =A0Given your decision that "Are they still alive?" is
a
> > reference to a secret (to us) assignment given to Hugo, why is it more
> > plausible to you (presumably more plausible by a comfortable margin,
> > given your willingness to base public predictions on it) that it was
> > an assignment to kill people rather than save them? =A0The question
"Are=
> > they still alive?" works equally well in both cases, as does Charlie's
> > statement.
>
> Of course it does, if "works" be taken to mean "would be a plausible
> statement". =A0So here I have to turn to the question of what would make
> for a better show.
>
> My base assumption is that "Lost" is tricky. =A0Its makers will take
> opp'ties to hide meanings from the audience while dangling incorrect
> inferences close to the surface for use to bite at. =A0I think that in
> this case, as previously when Locke was visited by Boone in his on-
> island sweat lodge, an ostensible inquiry or instruction about
> someone's welfare was actually an instruction to rub out someone who
> was a threat to the conspiracy.
>
> I take Hugo and Sayid to have the same interest in protecting their
> secret, and infer that they would use similar methods. =A0And what would
> be a better mind**** for the audience than ostensibly mild-mannered
> Hugo as assassin? =A0(However, I think he's trying to avoid that role.)
> Also, I can't think offhand of what other help "they" would "need"
> from Hugo.
>
> I reject the idea that Abaddon would be inquiring as to whether anyone
> was left alive on the island because I don't view it as a place of
> particular danger to his friends. =A0It'd be like asking, "Are they
> still alive back in Los Angeles?"
>
> >=A0In fact, Charlie's fits a little better if Hugo's secret
> > assignment was to protect people, insofar as the concept of "need"
> > better fits people in danger of being killed than people in danger of
> > not having the people they want killed killed.
>
> In what way do you imagine Hugo could protect people per se? =A0Protect
> their secrets, sure, but that's not a matter of doing something, but
> of NOT doing something, as when Jack asked whether Hugo was thinking
> of "telling". =A0Seriously, about the only way one could protect a
> competent, aware adult would be by restraining someone else who was a
> threat to hir, and the only practical way to do that, if you don't
> have a Gitmo or The Village hidden away somewhere, is to kill the
> threatening person(s).
>
> > If the question is all you're basing this prediction on, then you're
> > just the guy in front of the Keno machine, coming up with byzantine
> > math that explains each past game in hopes of predicting the next one,
> > and that (like so much around Keno) is more sad than interesting, so
> > I'll assume there's more - so what I'm curious about is, if you follow
> > back the chain of deductions that led to this one, do you *ever* hit
> > something that's been presented clearly and unequivocally as part of
> > the television show "Lost"?
>
> Eko did die in the vicinity of Locke, and, I believe, as manipulated
> by Locke. =A0I had predicted Eko would be rubbed out.
>
> But as to the flashforwards and the Oceanic 6, although they might not
> be so directly in the chain of reasoning that leads to Hugo as
> assassin (or at least requested to be an assassin), I wrote waaay back
> in Sept. '05, just before season 2 began, in relevant part:
>
> "You may have intermediate cases in which somebody...will find out too
> much and have to be silenced by `accident'. =A0Some may simply outlive
> their usefulness and become liabilities in some other way. =A0Anyway,
> the Fellow****p that remains will somehow have to be `rescued' from
> Craphole without ever finding out where they were. =A0In keeping with
> the m.o. of Lost...whatever physical evidence they discover in the
> Hatch or elsewhere will soon be blown up or otherwise destroyed except
> for a few tokens. =A0You can't take the chance that the outside world
> will discover Craphole and its backstage secrets.... =A0Therefore the
> Losties must reintegrate to the world separately and keep their
> distance from each other, except in secret. =A0Some of them will require
> no persuading to take on new identities...while others will resume
> their previous personae. =A0They will make up their own cover stories to
> explain their absence."
>
> I'd like to see someone else's predictions from back then as against
> mine. =A0If I'm playing Keno, my machine pays off pretty well.
>
> Robert
Shut up Rob, your rubbish got tiring 2 years ago!! Nothing you have
claimed since Series 1 holds up anymore, you stretch out your pretend
(is has to be made up as only a retard would still believe it) theory
so that it looks like it still fits with what we have viewed - but its
just pathetic. Everyone knows that you will claim to have been a troll
when absolutely nothing you have said will be proven (or you will do
the other idiot thing and claim that it has been shown but only you
could notice it).
I notice now that to avoid what you see on the screen you now claim
that the producers are lying to the viewers with what they
display....................you are an idiot pure and simple and your
supposed theory is well past its sell by date (i havent even asked you
for the money you owe me when you claimed that penny was also in on
this ruse and the end of S2 scene with the Russians/Whatever they were
spotting the surge and phoning penny was all bollocks and she knew
where Des was all this time (i suppose she was trying to not only fool
des, but some secret people observing her call with desmond in the
constant eh?)
Grow up retard and stick with the bubble bath!!
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