Re: Abrams Talks About Trek XI Movie

"Kweeg" <kweeg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "mrpemstar" <mrpemstar@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> >> If abrams is suggesting that he's going to do the same
>>> >> thing to Star Trek that he did to MI, i.e., turn a series
>>> >> whose plots involved complex intrigue into a slam-
>>> >> bang action pic with lots of big explosions, then this
>>> >> is *really* not encouraging.
>>
>>> > Why? TOS got sold to NBC as action-adventure. Any limitations on
>>> > action were not due to writing but due to cost. Roddenberry didn't
>>> > have the budget to show entire civilizations or wars between whole
>>> > civilizations,
>>> > so the scripts were written to have a few token alien characters
>>> > stand there and explain what was going on (e.g., "Let That Be Your
>>> > Last Battlefield").
>>
>>> Indeed. All these people that moan on about "Roddenberry wouldn't
>>> have done
>>> that." Well Roddenberry did have the vision, but as far as a writer
>>> or producer goes he was mediocre at best. GR didn't give a damn
>>> about continuity (or canon) in his own ST universe, if it would make
>>> money (or he
>>> thought it was a good idea) he'd do it. One just has to look at TMP
>>> and the
>>> first season of TNG to see that.
>>> Lucas is also a good example of how to ruin one's own franchise.
> 
>>You are wrong on 2 points.
>>1. This was not a venture about MONEY.
> 
> Since when has the entertainment industry been *not* a money making
> venture? 
> 
> 
>>This was a life long dream of
>>Gene's, he was inspired by many s/f writers and had input from many of
>>them in the 60's. So if you are gonna blame bad writing solely on
>>Gene, you are mistaken.
> 
> Did Gene produce anything else that was successful? (err the anser is
> no) 
> 
> 
>>2. Yes he DID CARE about his Star Trek universe, there were many
>>copywrite lawsuits when he was alive of people infringing on HIS
>>CREATION. There are many "unabridged" novels about Star Trek and Gene
>>made sure they were noted as so...
> 
> hmm litigation is about making money. GR didn't persue lawsuits
> (usually against the very fans that made ST popular) Paramount (who
> *own* the rights) did.
> 
> 
>>I suggest watching "city on the edge of forever" again, it almost won
>>a EMMY and was good writing to boot.
> 
> Indeed it was and BTW it *won* a Hugo Award. Gene didn't write it. See
> "Harlan Edison."
> http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/The_City_on_the_Edge_of_Forever

But Roddenberry re-wrote it which caused the Ellison-Rodenberry feud 
which continues to this day even with Roddenberry dead.

Harlan Edison invented the light bulb?
 
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