On Apr 28, 9:35=C2=A0pm, rwgibson13 <rwgibso...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Apr 28, 3:55=EF=BF=BDpm, Deneph <den...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On Apr 25, 5:44=EF=BF=BDpm, rwgibson13 <rwgibso...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > "Backgammon's the oldest game in the world. Archeologists found sets
> > > when they excavated the ruins of ancient Mesopotamia. Five thousand
> > > years old. That's older than Jesus Christ. Two players. Two sides.
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> > > is light, one is dark. Walt, do you want to know a secret?"
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> > > John Locke - "Pilot"
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> > > The producers have hinted since the very beginning that the
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> > > motif would continue to be im****tant during the entire run of the
> > > show, and "games" have shown up more often than I can remember or
> > > count, so it's impossible for me not to figure that means something
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> > > the overall scheme of things - but it wasn't until this last episode
> > > that we got any actual reference to "rules" to whatever "game" is
> > > being played. Assuming that Ben wasn't simply lying his ass off
again
> > > (something I'm never going to discount since lying is as much a part
> > > of Ben Linus as his beady eyes), it would seem that he and Widmore
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> > > both familiar with some kind of framework that may or may not still
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> > > in place.
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> > > In all this talk about "rules" and whether or not Widmore broke them
> > > got me thinking - Keamy was readily willing to pretty much do
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> > > he had to do to "get" Ben. =EF=BF=BDMiles was in it to make money
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figured
> > > he could do so by claiming Ben was dead with the apparent belief
that
> > > his word alone would be enough.
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> > > So, what exactly makes Ben so valuable ALIVE that Widmore would go
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> > > all the trouble? Is this "game" like "Capture the Flag" with the
Flag
> > > being Ben Linus? =EF=BF=BDDoesn't seem all that logical, considering
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acob and
> > > the fact that most of the Others don't seem to look to Ben as being
> > > some kind of king.
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> > > And where, exactly does John Locke fit in. =EF=BF=BDJust about every
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> > > shows him playing some kind of game. =EF=BF=BDHe obviously loves
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> > > the chess game on the Flame computer, something Mikhail claimed was
> > > impossible. He knows about and was apparently employing the
> > > "Australian strategy" in RISK :-) =EF=BF=BDDid Jacob/Craphole choose
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> > > (Ben's replacement, perhaps?) because he was good at games in
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> > > to being able to be easily manipulated (a quality Ben certainly does
> > > NOT share with him)?
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> > > RWG (more to come as we learn more about the "game")
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> > Some article I read pointed out how in that final scene, both Ben and
> > Widmore's faces are half lit, =EF=BF=BDEach were half in the dark and
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> > the light. =EF=BF=BDCould they be pawn's in someone else's game
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> Certainly possible, but the way Widmore addressed Ben in that scene
> made me think he hardly saw him as anything near an equal...
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> RWG (Ben may end up being a pawn - most of the quotes from the Others
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Widmore thinks everyone is beneath him so it's not surprising. He
could just be pitted against someone he's confident he'll beat.


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