On May 5, 12:59=A0pm, Robert <rmil...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 3, 3:02=A0pm, robg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>
> > What will it take to convince you what I've been saying for years,
> > that people on this show don't necessarily really die when they appear
> > to or are said to?
>
> Actually seeing them alive, and unambiguously not drug-induced
> hallucinations or island-induced visions.
Then you're asking not for clues, but for the solution, and that comes
only at the end of the mystery. You're supposed to be figuring the
solution out from the clues DURING the mystery.
>=A0They should behave like
> they did before dying and not vanish when the people interacting with
> them turn their heads for a moment.
See remarks about "living dead" below.
> Beyond that, I'd accept a character talking about faking the death.
The audio recording of Drowned Girl waking up on the autopsy table
wasn't enough? The statement and actual demonstration with the
spiders wasn't enough? Bakunin's the-apparatus-wasn't-operating-at-
lethal-level wasn't enough? Miles's surprise wake-up wasn't? The
several ostensible resuscitations shown?
Plus, they've been giving numerous "undead" hints. The "living dead"
shot that concluded one of the early season 2 episodes, Hugo's remarks
to Charlie about burying Ethan, Locke's "don't stay buried" remark,
Jin's father's being said to be dead, various other characters
pronouncing themselves dead.
The "living dead" shot was particularly instructive, because in a
succeeding episode it was reshown and continued in a way that made
clear they were Tailies, alive. So they were showing us that even if
a character appeared specter-like in one scene, it could always be
shown again in a way that made it un-spooky.
Plus, there are clues even in the "spooky" shots that un-spook them if
you look closely. My friend John pointed out that in the scene where
Yemi appeared to Mr. Eko on the island, that Yemi's clothes were
dusty, and John asked what kind of spook gets dirty traveling. His
answer, of course, is that that showed he was not a spook, that he was
there bodily.
Robert
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