Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter

In article <4825BD94.2DA@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, fkellis@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says...
> yngver@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> > 
> > On May 9, 11:47 pm, Fred Ellis <fkel...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > yng...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> > >
> > > > On May 9, 11:38 am, ri...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> > > > > So the doctors body washed a shore b/f he was killed on the
****p, so the
> > > > > island is in the future in that regard. (What if the doctor
knew? Could he
> > > > > have changed history?)
> > >
> > > > He did know, because one of the crew told him about the Morse code
> > > > message. Nevertheless, that's the kind of thing you would just
shrug
> > > > off and say, well, they're nuts because I'm fine.
> > >
> > > > > Using that same logic when the copter flew overhead and dropped
the package
> > > > > with the phone could that have occurred b/f the copter even took
off the
> > > > > freighter in freighter time?
> > >
> > > > > So the Losties would be a head of the coming bad guys?
> > >
> > > > > I'm confusing myself now!
> > >
> > > > I think keeping the helicopter on the proper heading avoids the
time
> > > > distortion. Sayid did remark on the time difference when Frank
first
> > > > brought them to the freighter, but they had veered off
course--which
> > > > is why Desmond became unstuck in time.
> > > > -yngver
> > >
> > > No, they didn't veered of course.  Sayid wanted Frank to change
course
> > > because of the storm clouds, but Frank told him he had to stay on
course
> > > if they were to reach the freighter.
> > >
> > > Fred Ellis
> > > --
> > It was my understanding in that episode ("The Constant" that due to
> > turbulence from the storm Frank was unable to hold the bearing, and
> > that's basically how Lostpedia describes the incident.
> > -yngver
> 
> Unless that information from Lostpeida was written by one of the
> producers or writers of the show it's not canon.  The information from
> that site comes from some fan like us that has written what they think
> as to what happen in that scene.
> 
> 
> Fred Ellis
-----
None the less it is highly accurate. If you have any doubts just take any
piece of 
data and then compare it to the show. They cite the episodes it happend in
as well. 
They even have the transcrips of all the episodes. If anything it is the
canon of the 
show, because it only describes what is on the show itself, podcast and
official 
statements of the producers and writers. I find it highly reliable. If
there is 
anything wrong with any of the data it is soon corrected. Let's take Frank
Lapidus's 
course. Here is Lostpedia's synopsis for "The Constant":

2004 - helicopter
Desmond is on the helicopter with Sayid and Frank, looking at a picture of
Penny. 
Frank is flying the route that Daniel gave him, and Sayid becomes worried
when it 
leads them straight into a thunderhead. They experience some turbulence.
The 
turbulence becomes progressively worse and Frank struggles to remain on
the correct 
bearing. The helicopter begins to drift from the 305 heading and Desmond
begins 
experiencing flashes. 

http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/The_Constant#Synopsis

Here is the transcript:

On the helicopter, DESMOND is looking at the photo of himself and PENNY.
FRANK is 
piloting the helicopter, with SAYID looking on. FRANK is looking at a
piece of 
notebook paper with a compass bearing on it.] 

SAYID: What's that? 

FRANK: Cheat sheet Faraday drew for me. 

SAYID: You don't know where your boat is? 

FRANK: I know where it is. 

[The helicopter begins flying into a thunderhead.] 

SAYID: Why are you flying directly into the thunderhead? 

FRANK: Why don't you just sit back and let me do my job, huh? 

[SAYID turns to look at DESMOND, who is still looking at the photograph.] 

SAYID: Is that Penelope? [DESMOND nods.] She told Charlie she didn't know
about this 
boat, correct? 

DESMOND: Aye. 

SAYID: What do you expect to find when you get there? 

DESMOND: Answers. 

[The helicopter experiences turbulence. There's a lightning strike.] 

FRANK: Damn it! 

[FRANK struggles to keep the copter steady.] 

FRANK: Hold on! 

http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/The_Constant_transcript

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How much you want to bet it matches what we saw? Just double check it with
the video.

Lost pedia is the effort of hundreds of fans checking on each other making
each other 
back up what they say with episode cites. You edit something there better
be prepared 
to back it up. I am sure it is not perfect, but what is?


   
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