Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter

On May 11, 10:49 am, Fred Ellis <fkel...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Hunter wrote:
>
> > In article <4825BD94....@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, fkel...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says...
> > > yng...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>
> > > > On May 9, 11:47 pm, Fred Ellis <fkel...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > yng...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
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> > > > > > On May 9, 11:38 am, ri...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> > > > > > > So the doctors body washed a shore b/f he was killed on the
****p, so the
> > > > > > > island is in the future in that regard. (What if the doctor
knew? Could he
> > > > > > > have changed history?)
>
> > > > > > He did know, because one of the crew told him about the Morse
code
> > > > > > message. Nevertheless, that's the kind of thing you would just
shrug
> > > > > > off and say, well, they're nuts because I'm fine.
>
> > > > > > > Using that same logic when the copter flew overhead and
dropped the package
> > > > > > > with the phone could that have occurred b/f the copter even
took off the
> > > > > > > freighter in freighter time?
>
> > > > > > > So the Losties would be a head of the coming bad guys?
>
> > > > > > > I'm confusing myself now!
>
> > > > > > I think keeping the helicopter on the proper heading avoids
the time
> > > > > > distortion. Sayid did remark on the time difference when Frank
first
> > > > > > brought them to the freighter, but they had veered off
course--which
> > > > > > is why Desmond became unstuck in time.
> > > > > > -yngver
>
> > > > > No, they didn't veered of course.  Sayid wanted Frank to change
course
> > > > > because of the storm clouds, but Frank told him he had to stay
on course
> > > > > if they were to reach the freighter.
>
> > > > > Fred Ellis
> > > > > --
> > > > It was my understanding in that episode ("The Constant" that due
to
> > > > turbulence from the storm Frank was unable to hold the bearing,
and
> > > > that's basically how Lostpedia describes the incident.
> > > > -yngver
>
> > > Unless that information from Lostpeida was written by one of the
> > > producers or writers of the show it's not canon.  The information
from
> > > that site comes from some fan like us that has written what they
think
> > > as to what happen in that scene.
>
> > > Fred Ellis
> > -----
> > None the less it is highly accurate. If you have any doubts just take
any piece of
> > data and then compare it to the show. They cite the episodes it
happend in as well.
> > They even have the transcrips of all the episodes. If anything it is
the canon of the
> > show, because it only describes what is on the show itself, podcast
and official
> > statements of the producers and writers. I find it highly reliable. If
there is
> > anything wrong with any of the data it is soon corrected. Let's take
Frank Lapidus's
> > course. Here is Lostpedia's synopsis for "The Constant":
>
> > (Snipped Dialogue)
>
> > How much you want to bet it matches what we saw? Just double check it
with the video.
>
> > Lost pedia is the effort of hundreds of fans checking on each other
making each other
> > back up what they say with episode cites. You edit something there
better be prepared
> > to back it up. I am sure it is not perfect, but what is?
>
> > --
> > ----->Hunter
>
> I have evey episode of 'Lost' recorded on DVD.  I rewatched that
> helicopter scene and there is no indication what so ever that the
> helicopter went off course.  Even tho it shows Frank struggling to
> maintain control of the aircraft the last camera shot of the instrument
> panel shows the compass with a heading of 305.
>
> Later after the helicopter lands on the freighter, Keamy wants to know
> happen to Desmond.  Frank tells Keamy that as long as if he stayed on
> the vector that Faraday gave him everything would be OK.  This implies
> that Frank did stay on course to get to the ****p.  There's a scene on
> the beach where Daniel tells Jack that some people just going to or
> coming from the island can become 'confused' or 'unstuck in time'.
>
> What cause Desmond to become 'confused' was the mere fact of him flying
> through that storm not the helicopter being off course, which it was
> not.
>
> I don't care what it says in Lostpedia as to how Desmond became
> 'confused' or 'unstuck in time', who ever wrote that information has it
> all wrong.
>
> Fred Ellis
> --
So what was the point of showing Frank struggling to stay on course,
if the only reason Desmond became "unstuck" was the storm?
-yngver