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Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter

by Fred Ellis <fkellis@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 11, 2008 at 11:38 PM

yngver@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> 
> On May 11, 10:49 am, Fred Ellis <fkel...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > Hunter wrote:
> >
> > > In article <4825BD94....@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, fkel...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says...
> > > > yng...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> >
> > > > > On May 9, 11:47 pm, Fred Ellis <fkel...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > > > > > yng...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > On May 9, 11:38 am, ri...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> > > > > > > > So the doctors body washed a shore b/f he was killed on
the ****p, so the
> > > > > > > > island is in the future in that regard. (What if the
doctor knew? Could he
> > > > > > > > have changed history?)
> >
> > > > > > > He did know, because one of the crew told him about the
Morse code
> > > > > > > message. Nevertheless, that's the kind of thing you would
just shrug
> > > > > > > off and say, well, they're nuts because I'm fine.
> >
> > > > > > > > Using that same logic when the copter flew overhead and
dropped the package
> > > > > > > > with the phone could that have occurred b/f the copter
even took off the
> > > > > > > > freighter in freighter time?
> >
> > > > > > > > So the Losties would be a head of the coming bad guys?
> >
> > > > > > > > I'm confusing myself now!
> >
> > > > > > > I think keeping the helicopter on the proper heading avoids
the time
> > > > > > > distortion. Sayid did remark on the time difference when
Frank first
> > > > > > > brought them to the freighter, but they had veered off
course--which
> > > > > > > is why Desmond became unstuck in time.
> > > > > > > -yngver
> >
> > > > > > No, they didn't veered of course.  Sayid wanted Frank to
change course
> > > > > > because of the storm clouds, but Frank told him he had to stay
on course
> > > > > > if they were to reach the freighter.
> >
> > > > > > Fred Ellis
> > > > > > --
> > > > > It was my understanding in that episode ("The Constant" that due
to
> > > > > turbulence from the storm Frank was unable to hold the bearing,
and
> > > > > that's basically how Lostpedia describes the incident.
> > > > > -yngver
> >
> > > > Unless that information from Lostpeida was written by one of the
> > > > producers or writers of the show it's not canon.  The information
from
> > > > that site comes from some fan like us that has written what they
think
> > > > as to what happen in that scene.
> >
> > > > Fred Ellis
> > > -----
> > > None the less it is highly accurate. If you have any doubts just
take any piece of
> > > data and then compare it to the show. They cite the episodes it
happend in as well.
> > > They even have the transcrips of all the episodes. If anything it is
the canon of the
> > > show, because it only describes what is on the show itself, podcast
and official
> > > statements of the producers and writers. I find it highly reliable.
If there is
> > > anything wrong with any of the data it is soon corrected. Let's take
Frank Lapidus's
> > > course. Here is Lostpedia's synopsis for "The Constant":
> >
> > > (Snipped Dialogue)
> >
> > > How much you want to bet it matches what we saw? Just double check
it with the video.
> >
> > > Lost pedia is the effort of hundreds of fans checking on each other
making each other
> > > back up what they say with episode cites. You edit something there
better be prepared
> > > to back it up. I am sure it is not perfect, but what is?
> >
> > > --
> > > ----->Hunter
> >
> > I have evey episode of 'Lost' recorded on DVD.  I rewatched that
> > helicopter scene and there is no indication what so ever that the
> > helicopter went off course.  Even tho it shows Frank struggling to
> > maintain control of the aircraft the last camera shot of the
instrument
> > panel shows the compass with a heading of 305.
> >
> > Later after the helicopter lands on the freighter, Keamy wants to know
> > happen to Desmond.  Frank tells Keamy that as long as if he stayed on
> > the vector that Faraday gave him everything would be OK.  This implies
> > that Frank did stay on course to get to the ****p.  There's a scene on
> > the beach where Daniel tells Jack that some people just going to or
> > coming from the island can become 'confused' or 'unstuck in time'.
> >
> > What cause Desmond to become 'confused' was the mere fact of him
flying
> > through that storm not the helicopter being off course, which it was
> > not.
> >
> > I don't care what it says in Lostpedia as to how Desmond became
> > 'confused' or 'unstuck in time', who ever wrote that information has
it
> > all wrong.
> >
> > Fred Ellis
> > --
> So what was the point of showing Frank struggling to stay on course,
> if the only reason Desmond became "unstuck" was the storm?
> -yngver

It was to simply hype the tension in that scene and to show that Frank
was going to stay on course no matter what.  Two things were needed to
cause Desmond to become 'confused' or 'unstuck'.  One, being exposed to
a high dose of electromagnetism when the Swan station imploded and two,
either going through the storm or simply leaving the island.


Fred Ellis  
-- 
Who do you serve. . . .   And who do you trust?
(To e-mail me, remove the X from my address)
 




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Time variance regarding helicopter
ringo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-09 16:38:15 
Re: Time variance regarding helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-09 19:22:56 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-09 22:47:54 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-09 22:51:31 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-10 09:22:35 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Hunter <buffhunter@[EM  2008-05-10 20:58:49 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-11 09:49:57 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Hunter <buffhunter@[EM  2008-05-12 14:21:27 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-12 20:31:30 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Hunter <buffhunter@[EM  2008-05-15 12:34:02 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
ddl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-05-15 20:42:46 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Hunter <buffhunter@[EM  2008-05-29 00:15:23 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Johnny1000@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-29 07:15:04 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"Joseph Donovan"  2008-05-15 17:22:14 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-15 15:15:19 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-15 20:07:01 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-11 20:02:50 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Anybody <anybody@[EMAI  2008-05-12 16:27:59 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-11 23:38:02 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Darren Delgado <darren  2008-05-12 05:35:45 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-12 15:07:27 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Darren Delgado <darren  2008-05-12 22:54:31 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"Default User"   2008-05-13 06:47:03 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Jim Gysin <jimgysin@[E  2008-05-14 01:37:25 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Darren Delgado <darren  2008-05-12 22:56:32 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-13 10:03:24 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-13 14:08:49 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-13 12:56:12 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-13 13:18:04 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter (CORRECTION)
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-13 17:02:16 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-13 21:07:26 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-13 22:27:19 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
~consul <consul@[EMAIL  2008-05-14 10:26:35 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-14 10:36:03 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-05-14 08:48:49 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
tdciago <tdciago@[EMAI  2008-05-14 10:32:19 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
~consul <consul@[EMAIL  2008-05-14 10:42:33 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Jim Gysin <jimgysin@[E  2008-05-14 22:30:08 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-14 14:27:02 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
~consul <consul@[EMAIL  2008-05-14 15:15:12 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-15 08:58:49 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
robgood@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-15 10:28:26 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Jim Gysin <jimgysin@[E  2008-05-15 18:30:37 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
robgood@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-15 10:38:51 
Re: Time variance regarding helicopter
"Les B. Labbauf"  2008-05-10 06:36:34 
Re: Time variance regarding helicopter
tdciago <tdciago@[EMAI  2008-05-10 05:16:06 
Re: Time variance regarding helicopter
"Les B. Labbauf"  2008-05-10 09:53:30 
Re: Time variance regarding helicopter
Hunter <buffhunter@[EM  2008-05-14 11:10:24 
Re: Time variance regarding helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-14 09:31:10 

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