On May 12, 8:09 am, rwgibson13 <rwgibso...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On May 11, 5:34 pm, Darren Delgado <darrendelg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On May 8, 12:45 pm, rwgibson13 <rwgibso...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On May 8, 11:34 am, Darren Delgado <darrendelg...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > On May 8, 8:58 am, rwgibson13 <rwgibso...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > On May 8, 6:01=EF=BF=BDam, Melroseman <melrose...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > On May 6, 10:16 pm, Fred Ellis <fkel...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > > > > > Melroseman wrote:
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> > > > > > > > Is it just my own paranoia or did anyone else get the
feelin=
g that
> > > > > > > > Juliette & Bernard were in on something to get Jack cut
open=
,
> > > > > > > > unconscious, and implant him with something before he gets
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o leave
> > > > > > > > the island?
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> > > > > > > > It would be quite ironic if it was indeed "food poisoning"
c=
oncocted
> > > > > > > > by Juliette to get the chance to cut him open.
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> > > > > > > > It was also telling that Kate was kicked out of the
operatin=
g tent,
> > > > > > > > and the amount of times Bernard tried to convince Jack to
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e the
> > > > > > > > chloroform.
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> > > > > > > > If we're to take the Rose/Bernard scene as a hint - that
no =
one gets
> > > > > > > > sick on the island - then Jack truly wasn't sick with
append=
icitis.
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> > > > > > > > Just sayin'... and lovin' this season!
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> > > > > > > Yes, it's just your paranoia and no, Juliet and Bernard
didn't=
place
> > > > > > > anything inside Jack's body. =EF=BF=BDThe island doesn't
preve=
nt someone from
> > > > > > > getting sick. =EF=BF=BDBut there is a belief or theory that
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e island can cure
> > > > > > > a sick or injured person if they have faith in the island.
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> > > > > > > Fred Ellis
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> > > > > > Well then what was the point of the whole episode? =EF=BF=BDOf
J=
ack being
> > > > > > sick? =EF=BF=BDAre they still making filler episodes even on
thi=
s tight 3
> > > > > > season deadline? There has to be a reason for this plotline
belo=
w the
> > > > > > surface stuff. =EF=BF=BDEverything happens for a reason...
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> > > > > First of all, I don't think I've seen you around here before.
Welc=
ome
> > > > > to the newsgroup!
>
> > > > > :-)
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> > > > > As for Jack getting sick, I strongly suspect the whole thing was
a=
non-
> > > > > too-subtle plot device to set up the finale - if only six people
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et
> > > > > to leave the island, there has to be a method to the madness...
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> > > > > RWG (and Jack isn't the type who would actively choose to leave
if=
> > > > > someone else could've taken his spot)
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> > > > He's not? He was going to leave by himself last season
>
> > > That's because he was the only one in any kind of situation to do so
> > > at the time.
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> > > RWG (it's not like Ben would've agreed to let everyone off the
island
> > > for getting rid of that tumor :-)
>
> > He had Ben hemorrhaging on the operating table, and he used it for
> > leverage, right? He could have just said, get everyone from 815 off
> > the Island, or he dies. But all he did was get Sawyer and Kate to go
> > free, back to the other part of the Island they're all trapped on
>
> Because he didn't want to overplay his hand and make an outrageous
> demand he knew would never be agreed to (or even knew was possible).
>
> Let's put it this way - what kind of a guy do you really think Jack
> Shepherd is? The kind of guy who, if faced with the decision of
> putting himself on a raft or, say putting Claire on the raft, is he
> the kind of guy who would choose himself?
Good question: how about when he was helping Ben recuperate? The
tension of the operating room hostage situation was long over by that
point. He was hanging around in the Others' camp throwing a football
around, waiting to go home on a sub, with the weak justification that
this would enable him to go get help. At that point, he could say,
"Ben, repay my favor by letting me return to the camp and let Kate go
home", knowing she could go get help just the same as he could. Or
Claire, or Hurley, or Rose and Bernard. Any of the other survivors in
camp can go back to the mainland and call 911; he is a doctor and
could be much more help to the survivors on the beach while waiting
for rescue to come. But he was perfectly fine with bailing.
I think you're giving him way too much credit; the "fix everything"
obsession is being framed in such a way as to ****tray that it has more
to do with his own flaws and insecurities as a person than it has to
do with actual regard for the welfare of others. When push comes to
shove he is completely self-absorbed.
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