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Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter

by "yngver@[EMAIL PROTECTED] " <yngver@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 15, 2008 at 03:15 PM

On May 15, 3:42 pm, ddl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Dan Lanciani) wrote:
> In article <MPG.229630017908c4d298a...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
buffhun...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Hunter) writes:
>
> | Frank did say "...Hey, Faraday told me as long as I stayed on the
vector...=
> | " but he=20
> | is mistaken, he didn't. He believes so because he probably thinks he
went o=
> | ff course=20
> | by only 5 degrees and only a few seconds but it was enough to scramble
Desm=
> | ond's=20
> | brain. He didn't think it was *THAT* im****tant but it was. Faraday as
a sci=
> | entist is=20
> | just more percise than Frank the Airline/chopper pilot. Sure pilots
are per=
> | cise too,=20
> | but to them a five degree variation in course for only a few seconds
isn't =
> | that big a=20
> | deal. To faraday it was. It was a misunderstanding between "cultures"
"Scie=
> | nce geek"=20
> | and "pilot jock". To a science geek if you are off by an inch you got
to do=
> |  the=20
> | experiment over again. That is what Frank didn't get.
>
> (Not disagreeing that going off course caused the problem, but...)
>
> If Faraday were a real scientist he would have specified the allowable
> variance from the heading either as a percentage or as an absolute
number
> of degrees.  He would also explain whether there is a time-compounding
effect
> of being off course.  Telling Frank to stay "exactly" on a particular
heading
> is meaningless since the mechanical realities of the helicopter and the
> available resolution of the indicator will always make this impossible. 
I
> expect Sayid is going to have even more trouble with the raft.
>
> Two other things bothered me.  Was the course on Faraday's "cheat sheet"
> more complicated than a single heading?  I didn't get a good look at it;
> can someone check?  It's very convenient that the ****p is stuck in a
position
> that allows the required heading for going to and from the island to
actually
> take you... to and from the island.  I assume they had positioned
themselves
> there before Michael sabotaged the engines.  Had he sabotaged the
engines a
> bit earlier he might have better accomplished his goal.  In particular,
if
> you are close enough to the island that the magic heading is already
required
> to avoid side effects but you are not on a line along that heading
relative
> to the island you might be in trouble.
>
The cheat sheet actually says "40 miles N @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 305 (degree symbol)" and
below that line "7 K EAST". So it is a little more complicated than a
single heading.

You are right, how can Sayid hold to that exact heading in a raft? Yet
in our last glimpse of Sayid he was quite confidently sailed rapidly
toward the island.
-yngver
 




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Time variance regarding helicopter
ringo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-09 16:38:15 
Re: Time variance regarding helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-09 19:22:56 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-09 22:47:54 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-09 22:51:31 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-10 09:22:35 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Hunter <buffhunter@[EM  2008-05-10 20:58:49 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-11 09:49:57 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Hunter <buffhunter@[EM  2008-05-12 14:21:27 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-12 20:31:30 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Hunter <buffhunter@[EM  2008-05-15 12:34:02 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
ddl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (D  2008-05-15 20:42:46 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Hunter <buffhunter@[EM  2008-05-29 00:15:23 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Johnny1000@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-29 07:15:04 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"Joseph Donovan"  2008-05-15 17:22:14 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-15 15:15:19 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-15 20:07:01 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-11 20:02:50 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Anybody <anybody@[EMAI  2008-05-12 16:27:59 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-11 23:38:02 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Darren Delgado <darren  2008-05-12 05:35:45 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-12 15:07:27 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Darren Delgado <darren  2008-05-12 22:54:31 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"Default User"   2008-05-13 06:47:03 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Jim Gysin <jimgysin@[E  2008-05-14 01:37:25 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Darren Delgado <darren  2008-05-12 22:56:32 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-13 10:03:24 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-13 14:08:49 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-13 12:56:12 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-13 13:18:04 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter (CORRECTION)
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-13 17:02:16 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-13 21:07:26 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-13 22:27:19 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
~consul <consul@[EMAIL  2008-05-14 10:26:35 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Fred Ellis <fkellis@[E  2008-05-14 10:36:03 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@[  2008-05-14 08:48:49 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
tdciago <tdciago@[EMAI  2008-05-14 10:32:19 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
~consul <consul@[EMAIL  2008-05-14 10:42:33 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Jim Gysin <jimgysin@[E  2008-05-14 22:30:08 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-14 14:27:02 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
~consul <consul@[EMAIL  2008-05-14 15:15:12 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-15 08:58:49 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
robgood@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-15 10:28:26 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
Jim Gysin <jimgysin@[E  2008-05-15 18:30:37 
Re: Time Variance Regarding Helicopter
robgood@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-05-15 10:38:51 
Re: Time variance regarding helicopter
"Les B. Labbauf"  2008-05-10 06:36:34 
Re: Time variance regarding helicopter
tdciago <tdciago@[EMAI  2008-05-10 05:16:06 
Re: Time variance regarding helicopter
"Les B. Labbauf"  2008-05-10 09:53:30 
Re: Time variance regarding helicopter
Hunter <buffhunter@[EM  2008-05-14 11:10:24 
Re: Time variance regarding helicopter
"yngver@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-05-14 09:31:10 

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