In article <1160236513.494754.185870@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"kev242@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
" <kev242@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Anybody wrote:
> >
> > Told ya so!! ;-)
> >
> > Although the price has dropped a little, the only REAL stumbling block
> > for Macs is still the price (and games). Apple charges a premium to
> > have their logo - sometimes to their detriment (eg. the Newton PDA and
> > the G4 Cube). :-( But usually you do "get what you pay for" - it
> > simply works!
>
> As far as games running in OSX it's a losing battle that Apple lost a
> long time ago. Boot Camp is on my iMac just for that reason and my
> iMac can play all the latest PC games so that problem is solved as far
> as I am concerned. As far as charging a premium for their logo, that
> is less and less true. IMO this Imac is much better then a similary
> equiped PC. It has the added bonus of looking cool, running OSX, and
> being completely silent.
Apple's prices have come down a little and you do usually get a much
better quality / spec'd product ... BUT like companies such as Rolls
Royce, Mercedes and Gucci, Apple do still over-price their stuff simply
becuase it is an Apple product. The rumour is that they make about 50%
profit on each iPod. :-\ It makes you wonder how many they'd sell
at a more sensible margin.
I'd prefer to have Mac version of my games, but I do have many Windows
games in my collection since there are no Mac versions ... but I don't
actually get time to play anything more complicated than a quick card
or simple arcade-style game anyway. :-(
> > I can't say I'm a great fan of Mac OS X. It's growing on me (like a
> > fungus), but I still prefer the ease, cleaness and consistencty of Mac
> > OS 9. I'm still trying to make up my mind which Mac to upgrade to, but
> > upgrading from this old beige G3 is still probably a little time off
> > yet.
>
> I have two Mac's, one is a G3 500mhz Imac with 512mb ram and my Intel
> core duo imac. I recently upgraded the G3 (added memory, dvd drive
> etc..) from a older non working imac someone gave me and I installed
> OSX tiger. It runs fine on this machine, but yes it's still nice to
> have classic on there and many applications for the G3 run better in
> their classic incarnations then their modern OSX ones on the G3, so
> tonight I am putting OS9 in it too. It is possible to run the classic
> OS on the Intel mac's (via a PowerPC emulator!) but OSX runs so fast
> that I doubt there is much demand.
Yep. SheepShaver evidently allows you to run Classic applications on
Intel Macs, although you need a ROM image from an older machine. I'm
not sure it handles Mac OS 9 either.
The main use would be for older games people still like to play or the
occasional piece of old software - PageMaker, for example, won't run on
Intel Macs, and has a few bugs running under Mac OS X on PowerPC Macs.
Classic itself has a few bugs anyway.
> When you do finally upgrade it's gonna be a serious jump!!!Not sure how
> you held off thru the g4, g5, an even core duo era's!! that's a 4
> generation jump if you buy one of the new Core 2 duo's today otherwise
> it is 5 generations! It's a testament to the macintosh that the older
> machines still remain useful (unlike PC's where a Pentium PC from 4 or
> 5 years ago would be a glorified paperweight and forget about running
> modern software or OS!)
The only real thing that's beginning to make this Mac look "old" is the
fact that most of my clients now use Mac OS X and at some stage I'll
need to be able to use software that won't run on my current Mac.
There's also some websites that are starting to show hiccups with fancy
new bits that don't work in Explorer and or are slow in iCab. Otherwise
it does pretty much everything I need it to.
Unfortunately I'll have to upgrade the entire set-up (including going
to broadband), which will be expensive, but easier and probably cheaper
than trying to get these bits connected and working to a new Mac. I'm
begining to look at whether to get a 23" iMac or a Mac Pro + 23"
display, but with Mac OS X 10.5 just around the corner and none of the
main applications from the likes of Adobe being Intel-native yet,
there's still a little while before I perhaps "have" to make that
decision.
This Mac might even last me 10 years (or more). Maybe even long enough
for Apple to switch back to PowerPC or it's replacement. ;-)
> On a brighter note Apple is making resurgence and gaining marketshare
> since they switched to Intel which is the best move they've made in
> many many years IMO.
In some ways yes, in others no. The loss of "Classic" sup****t is
annoying for some of us (although you can work-around that as above).
There's also a divided camp as to whether Intel or AMD chips are
better. Realisitically there was nothing wrong with the PowerPC, other
than Steve Jobs belief that the sun ****nes out of a laptop's bottom
:-)
and PowerPCs supposedly not running cool enough quickly enough for him.
The main problem with marketshare is that if Apple gets "too" big it
will start attracting the morons that make malware like viruses, etc.
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