Tetsubo wrote:
> Sea Wasp wrote:
>
>> Kaos wrote:
>>
>>> on Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:14:45 GMT, Sea Wasp wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Kaos wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> on Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:10:03 -0400, Invid Fan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> In article <1157905323.254724.95550@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>> Wayne <HWayne@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> No different then getting it from a book. Suppose Ayn Rand had
skipped
>>>>>> the book and done The Fountainhead as a movie. Would the ideas in
it
>>>>>> have less meaning?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible for it to have less meaning in the first place?
>>>>> (Outside of an objectivist "our groupthink isn't groupthink at all"
>>>>> camp, that is...)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your above comment shows you have either not read, or have not
>>>> understood, Rand's philosophy. It is easily possible to show that
>>>> her philosophy has FLAWS -- basically the same flaws pure Communism
>>>> has, in a dark mirror -- but dismissing it so casually indicates a
>>>> failure to grasp it at all.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Her philosophy, in a nutshell, is that groups of people are inherently
>>> evil and anyone who can't stand on their own is a waste of oxygen.
>>
>>
>>
>> No, actually, it's not. Once more, you do not understand it.
>>
>> FORCED groups are inherently evil. Voluntary associations are just
>> fine -- Galt's Gulch in Atlas Shrugged is a demonstration of just such
>> a relation****p between equals.
>>
>>
> I always wondered who was going to do all of the grunt work in Galt's
> Gulch.
The people who were willing to do so. People like Eddie Williers (the
one truly great injustice of AS was that (at least as of the ending of
the book) they hadn't brought him in. Rand never said there was no
worth in people who weren't supergenii, and in fact specifically
addresses that people like Dagny and Hank Rearden did much of their
work expecting to work with such people, and have them benefit from
the work, as the world benefits from the presence of those people.
> And how did they plan on keeping out the "riff-raff"?
That engine-killing invisibility screen seemed to be a real good start.
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