Kaos wrote:
> on Fri, 15 Sep 2006 21:53:52 GMT, Sea Wasp wrote:
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>>Kaos wrote:
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>>>on Wed, 13 Sep 2006 23:14:45 GMT, Sea Wasp wrote:
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>>>>Kaos wrote:
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>>>>>on Sun, 10 Sep 2006 21:10:03 -0400, Invid Fan wrote:
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>>>>>>In article <1157905323.254724.95550@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Bill
>>>>>>Wayne <HWayne@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>>>>>>No different then getting it from a book. Suppose Ayn Rand had
skipped
>>>>>>the book and done The Fountainhead as a movie. Would the ideas in it
>>>>>>have less meaning?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Is it possible for it to have less meaning in the first place?
>>>>>(Outside of an objectivist "our groupthink isn't groupthink at all"
>>>>>camp, that is...)
>>>>
>>>> Your above comment shows you have either not read, or have not
>>>>understood, Rand's philosophy. It is easily possible to show that her
>>>>philosophy has FLAWS -- basically the same flaws pure Communism has,
>>>>in a dark mirror -- but dismissing it so casually indicates a failure
>>>>to grasp it at all.
>>>
>>>
>>>Her philosophy, in a nutshell, is that groups of people are inherently
>>>evil and anyone who can't stand on their own is a waste of oxygen.
>>
>> No, actually, it's not. Once more, you do not understand it.
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>
> No, actually it is. The rest was window dressing, torn away by Anthem.
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>
*sigh* Anthem was a short (very short) novel specifically meant to
paint one major point in extreme colors. The point being that the
necessary final consequence of the collectivist approach was to
deliberately suppress the ego -- the existence and realization of the
individual -- to whatever extent was possible.
This was not her first novel, though it was the first one
deliberately built around part of her philosophy -- the most obvious
part of it, the im****tance of the individual. This was particularly
im****tant at the time she published it since at the time it seemed
that Communism was on the rise, and many of its tenets were being
widely favored. The extension and detailing of her philosophy required
reaching Atlas Shrugged; she stopped writing fiction at that point
precisely because she felt she had, in that novel, succeeded in
detailing her philosophy as it could be in fiction.
There were a number of other central tenets of her philosophy which
would not be explicated in Anthem, due to its shortness and focus.
--
Sea Wasp
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