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DTV adjacent channel interference issues

by phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 12, 2008 at 10:32 AM

In this decision by the FCC:

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-08-72A1.pdf

WTOV's petition to reconsider a power/antenna upgrade was denied.  The
reason give it that an interference level of 2.6 would exist with WWCP
in Johnstown PA.  The post trasition channels will be WTOV on 9 and
WWCP on 8.

Something about this seems wrong to me.

First of all, there are many cases (listed below) of 2 or more stations in
the same market that are on adjacent channels.  So at least approximately
equal power levels do not pose an interference issue.  This may require
the
antennas be on the same tower or within a mile or so to be acceptable.

So it must be a case that interference can happen when one station is much
stronger than the other.  In the case of WTOV vs. WWCP, they are 2 market
boundaries apart.  Is the FCC trying to protect people in one of these
markets to be able to watch TV in the other (which is an entire hop over
the Pittsburgh market).

WHERE would that 2.6% interference be happening?  In one or the other of
the makets these 2 stations are in?  In some other market like Pittsburgh
where someone might be trying to receive out of market from one and be
interfered with by the other on the backside?

It would seem to me that if WTOV would be causing any adjacent channel
interference, it might be with WJW channel 8 in Cleveland or WOIO channel
10 near Cleveland.

TV tuners these days clearly have no trouble with a lot of adjacent
channels, at least when they are about the same strength, given that this
is happening on virtually all cable TV systems, analog and digital.

And it looks like the FCC is packing some digital stations closer than
the analog ones, on the same channel.  But I do believe it would be easy
enough to even get both with a reasonably directional antenna when located
at the midway point (with a switch or separate tuners).

I used to live at about the midway point between WCMH and WOAY.  I could
get both channel 4's with good clarity by just turning the antenna.

I do receive WTOV's analog signal on channel 9 snowy, and digital signal
on channel 57 transitional fairly solid (some spots moving around can
break
it up) where both signals are going through or over the hill that rises 60
feet above me in my backyard.  And this is with a rabbit ear antenna that
also has a UHF loop, inside the house, near the northern middle part of
Ohio County WV, near Wheeling.  I'm building a ****table base system to
sup****t an antenna that I can move around, and will be putting a CM-4228
in it.  It will go on the ****ch to begin with to see what I can get.

Maybe I can get WWCP if WTOV doesn't interfere too much :-)

Here is the list of cities with adjacent channel allocations (from the
table of allocation ... I did not check the list of actual stations).
Several of these are VHF, so it isn't a VHF/UHF thing that I could see.

Los Angeles CA       41 42 43
Monterey CA          31 32
San Diego CA         18 19
San Fransciso CA     38 39
San Jose CA          49 50
Stockton CA          25 26
Denver CO            18 19 and 34 35
Hartford CT          45 46
Fort Walton Beach FL 49 50
Miami FL             18 19 and 22 23
Orlando FL           22 23 and 26 27
Tampa FL             12 13
Atlanta GA           20 21
Hilo HI              22 23
Honolulu HI          8 9 10 11
Indianaplis IN       44 45
Topeka KS            11 12 13
Lexington KY         39 40
****tland ME          43 44
Baltimore MD         40 41
Boston MA            19 20 and 30 31 32
Detroit MI           43 44 45
Jackson MS           20 21
Billings MT          10 11
Butte MT             5 6
Great Falls MT       7 8
Reno NV              7 8
Santa Fe NM          9 10
Buffalo NY           32 33 34 and 38 39
Utica NY             29 30
Charlotte NC         22 23
Raleigh NC           48 49
Wilmington NC        29 30
Winston-Salem NC     31 32
Cincinnati OH        33 34 35
Dayton OH            50 51
Oklahoma City OK     50 51
Roseburg OR          18 19
Philadelphia PA      34 35
Pittsburgh PA        42 43
Columbia SC          47 48
Chattanooga TN       12 13
Memphis TN           28 29
Dallas TX            35 36
Lubbock TX           39 40
San Antonio TX       38 39
Richmod VA           25 26
Roanoke VA           17 18
Seattle WA           38 39
Spokane WA           7 8
Green Bay WI         41 42
Milwaukee WI         33 34 35
Lander WY            7 8
Mayaguez PR          22 23
San Juan PR          27 28 and 31 32
Charlotte Amalie VI  43 44

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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-12 10:32:04 
Re: DTV adjacent channel interference issues
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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-13 18:13:05 
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