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Re: question about scalers

by Wes Newell <w.newell@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 26, 2008 at 06:56 AM

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:26:33 +0000, phil-news-nospam wrote:

> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:21:16 GMT Wes Newell
> <w.newell@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote: | On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:52:39
> +0000, Allen Watson wrote: |
> |> I've been looking at specifications for video scalers, but as far as
> I |> can tell, they provide only the standard presets-- fine for
> upscaling |> 480-line stuff to full-screen on a 720p or 1080p monitor. 
> I want custom |> settings that would let me, for example, display
> 480-line video on the |> middle 480 lines of a 720p monitor.  Are there
> scalers that can do that? |
> | Set your TV for a 1:1 aspect ratio. That will display it as is. IOW's,
> if | it's 640x480 and you have a 1366x768 display, it will occupy the
> center | 640x480 pixels. It will be small, but it will be super
> clear.:-)
> 
> Can you list a model that _actually_ does this?  When I set them to 1:1
> (not all can even do that) then the 640x480 input ends up as 1024x768,
> filling the middle from top to bottom, with black sides (e.g. pillar
> boxed).  That _is_ a 1:1 aspect ratio ... just not a 1:1 pixel
> conversion ratio.  Converting 640x480 to 1024x768 is a 5:8 conversion
> ratio.
> 
Olevia 427V (Set Aspect ratio to 1:1 mode). Envision 37" (Set aspect ratio

to no scale).  It's done different but the end results are the same.

> 
> | I'm assuming all HDTV's have this setting since my inexpensive sets
> do.
> 
> Not the Vizio 32" my brother has.  OTOH, the pillarbox picture looks
> fine despite the 5:8 conversion.
> 
Hmmm... My cousin has a Vizio 37" and I'm pretty sure it does. But it 
isn't in the menu IIRC. Only on the remote.

> What really sucks is when the station sends some 16:9 program in
> letterbox over SD.  360 lines out of 480 would be used.  Then that
> 640x360 picture gets scaled up to 1024x576 on the 1366x768 screen.  I
> refer to this using the made up term "pilletter boxed".  The Vizio set
> won't zoom it.  It can stretch it wider, but then it isn't 1:1 aspect
> anymore.  It needs to have a 33.3% (3:4) zoom that will obey when
> selected, even if it things something is going to be lost off the edge
> of the screen.

Well, I just set both my HDTV's to normal aspect ratios. I watch 
everything through my PC recorder system which will let me manipulate the 
picture any way I see fit. Now I wouldn't want to make the image smaller, 
but when I get a 16:9 picture in a 4:3 image I can just use 16:9 zoom to 
take it right back to full screen. There's quite a few shows like this I 
watch. I really haven't checked to see if the TV's will do this on their 
own.... Well, the Envision zoom x2 mode does exactly that. Zoom modes are 
1/4, 1/2, x1 (normal), x2, and x4 on it. Can't get to the Olevia to test 
it now, but I'm pretty sure it will also do it.

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 12 Posts in Topic:
question about scalers
Allen Watson <awatson3  2008-04-23 22:52:39 
Re: question about scalers
Wes Newell <w.newell@[  2008-04-24 04:21:16 
Re: question about scalers
Jan B <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-24 07:00:12 
Re: question about scalers
"Tam" <t-tam  2008-04-24 12:16:06 
Re: question about scalers
pj <pj4380@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-24 13:14:15 
Re: question about scalers
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-25 22:26:33 
Re: question about scalers
Jer <gdunn@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-24 08:56:50 
Re: question about scalers
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-25 22:30:52 
Re: question about scalers
Wes Newell <w.newell@[  2008-04-24 18:34:15 
Re: question about scalers
Allen Watson <awatson3  2008-04-24 23:40:42 
Re: question about scalers
Wes Newell <w.newell@[  2008-04-26 06:56:42 
Re: question about scalers
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-04-27 06:28:08 

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