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Re: Why Buy a Converter?

by Jim Yanik <jyanik@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 27, 2008 at 08:18 PM

phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote in news:fv2fcv211fm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:30:20 -0500 Jer <gdunn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>| phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>|> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:30:53 -0400 Bishoop <none@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>|> wrote: 
>|> 
>|> | "Lee" <lbray5032@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>|> | news:F3MQj.33895$tG6.12630@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>|> |> Rog' wrote:
>|> |>> Is there any reason for those of us who rely on cable or
>|> |>> satellite, and expect that we always will, to buy a subsidized
>|> |>> converter for our analog-TV's?  Maybe just in case someone blows
>|> |>> up our cable-headquarters and takes out the satellites?
>|> |>
>|> |> How about losing your power and you drag out your battery TV that
>|> |> you plugged into the car to check on the storm?  I keep one just
>|> |> for that reason as I live in Florida.
>|> |>
>|> |> L e e
>|> | 
>|> | Doesn't the converter box require AC power? 
>|> 
>|> The one I saw in Walmart requires DC.  I presume they provide an
>|> adaptor to convert the AC to DC.
>|> 
>|> Or you could wait until the government changes AC over to DC.
>|> 
>| 
>| 
>| Kewl!  I've been waiting for the op****tunity to use my new v2.0
>| jumper cables from the car to power the house.  It may sound kinda
>| kludgey, but I'm ready for an upgrade.
> 
> Those jumper cables may not be UL listed for the voltages involved :-)
> 
> There are a lot of things that could be better about the way
> electricity is delivered to homes (maybe changing to DC is one of
> them).  But it is simply not practical to make the change because so
> many things are not ready.  One such change I propose is increasing
> the voltage.  It would be more efficient in most cir***stances.  We
> know how to keep it safe, now.  And for a great many things, it's not
> hard to make them "240 ready".  Virtually every computer already is,
> for example.  DC, OTOH, would be a lot harder, even though we do have
> the technology to step DC down from distribution voltages (2kV to
> 35kV) to delivery voltages (100V to 600V).  

conversion losses would be too high.
BTW,distribution voltages run as high as 100s of thousands of volts.
I believe there are a few megavolt lines,too.

> Still, had Edison
> prevailed in having DC everywhere, while we might have had many
> difficulties through the 1900's, we might well be better off now (for
> example an electronic ballast can run a fluorescent light using DC
> when designed for that purpose). 
> 

every small appliance in your house would need replacing. 
Anything with a small motor;they generally cannot be rewired for 240v.
you would need new wall-warts for other items. 

Transmission of DC power is far more difficult.

BTW,I took apart a failed compact fluorsecent and the electronic ballast 
first rectifies the incoming AC to DC.(using a voltage doubler,too.)

-- 
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
 




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Why Buy a Converter?
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-29 06:04:08 
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"NewMan" <Ne  2008-04-26 22:29:22 
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Lee <lbray5032@[EMAIL   2008-04-27 13:51:58 
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"NewMan" <Ne  2008-04-27 15:22:35 
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"NewMan" <Ne  2008-04-27 22:01:45 
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"NewMan" <Ne  2008-04-28 17:02:20 
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"NewMan" <Ne  2008-04-28 09:16:52 
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Ant <ANTant@[EMAIL PRO  2008-04-28 09:16:14 
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Jim Yanik <jyanik@[EMA  2008-04-28 16:49:23 
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Bruce Tomlin <bruce#fa  2008-04-29 12:50:43 
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Jim Yanik <jyanik@[EMA  2008-04-29 18:09:44 
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Jer <gdunn@[EMAIL PROT  2008-04-29 14:06:21 
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Bruce Tomlin <bruce#fa  2008-04-29 19:35:19 
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Jim Yanik <jyanik@[EMA  2008-04-30 12:54:38 
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