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Re: Displaying 1080i on 720p native screen.

by "Slitheen" <Slitheen123@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 2, 2008 at 05:59 PM

"Jer" <gdunn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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> Slitheen wrote:
>> "Jan B" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>> news:666l14p5m3quj4sf9af1g5r0ssdg1g4cfc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Fri, 2 May 2008 00:07:38 +0100, "Slitheen"
>>> <Slitheen123@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Alan F" <afiggatt1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>> news:a_rSj.37272$TS5.35666@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Slitheen wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>>> The resolution of the set is 1366x768 (most sub 40" 720p panels are

>>>>>> this
>>>>>> resolution). Knowing these screens support 720p and 1080i (and the
>>>>>> 576i/480p modes of course), I want to know what I should set my 
>>>>>> various
>>>>>> devices to output, namely my PS3 and an upscaling DVD 
>>>>>> recorder/set-top
>>>>>> box. Does 1080i look better than 720p on a 1366x768 resolution 
>>>>>> screen, or
>>>>>> do I just set the devices to display 720p? In other words, should 
>>>>>> 1080
>>>>>> interlaced look better than 720 progressive on this screen, so to 
>>>>>> speak.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know the good advice would be try both and see, but I don't get
>>>>>> delivery of the TV till tomorrow....I just wanted to be enamoured 
>>>>>> with a
>>>>>> bit of good advice prior to setting up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for any input.
>>>>>   Your TV would be what I call a 768p set. It will downscale 1080i
and
>>>>> upscale 720p. Since most HD channels are 1080i, the cable/sat box is
>>>>> probably best overall at 1080i, if it does not have native 
>>>>> passthrough.
>>>>> But for an upscaling DVD recorder/player, since the source is 480i 
>>>>> (unless
>>>>> you have PAL format DVDs), I think you will have to experiment. My 
>>>>> guess
>>>>> is that 1080i will look a little better if the TV electronics can
pick 
>>>>> up
>>>>> the 3:2 pulldown of the 24 fps source and display it as 24p.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Alan F
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, I realised as I hit 'send' that I should note that I'm in the
UK, 
>>>> so
>>>> I'm PAL....same is true of 90% of my DVD collection (Region 2 PAL). 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> for your input, I will check and just trust my own eyes to see which 
>>>> looks
>>>> best. I find it terribly confusing this issue. :)
>>> "Pass through" as mentioned above and has a good chance of being
>>> optimum. This lets the TV scale and for a 768 panel it minimises the
>>> number of scalings.
>>>
>>> This is true also for a DVD player, both picture wise and regarding
>>> functionality in aspect control, so try the DVD player at 576i output.
>>>
>>> Unfortunatly, some manufacturers (of players with upscaling feature)
>>> don't allow the user to decide what resolution to use in HDMI so the
>>> player selects the higest number that the TV supports. That will be
>>> 1080i on any HD Ready TV regardless of the native resolution.
>>
>> Thankfully I can change to resolution on the DVD recorder, only 
>> 'automatic' forces the highest setting (1080i).
>>
>> I'm really glad you mentioned your previous point perhaps you can clear

>> some confusion for me. As you say, if I force 576i and let the set
scale 
>> the image, I am able to gain functionality over aspect ratio changing
(it 
>> forces 16:9 in 720p and 1080i if I let the DVD recorder scale it), but
I 
>> am confused about one thing: The old adage if you have a set with a 
>> decent scaling chip and you have an upscaling DVD recorder says that if

>> you just force the recorder to output 576i (480i for NTSC), the set
will 
>> handle the upscaling. I have a Panasonic DMR-EX75 recorder, if I let
the 
>> recorder scale the output to 720p or 1080i and press the 'info' button
on 
>> my TV remote, the screen tells me it is displaying at 720p or 1080i,
but 
>> if I force the recorder to output 576i and press the info button on the

>> set, it says it is displaying at 576i - now if it was upscaling the 
>> image, wouldn't it say 720p or 1080i? Or have I understood how this all

>> works?
>
> The info button on the TV is telling you what is being received from the

> DVD player (or other source) - not what the TV is displaying.
>
> Hope this helps
>

Yes, it does. Thanks.

Actually, it confirms what I have suspected....as right after I hit 'send'

on my last post....I kind of guessed what you have just said. So to recap,

it's just displaying what it is being fed from the source, but as the 576i

is being passed via HDMI, the TV's scaling chip is displaying it as 
720p...which is the native resolution of the set. Correct?

Thanks. :)




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Displaying 1080i on 720p native screen.
"Slitheen" <  2008-05-01 23:50:08 
Re: Displaying 1080i on 720p native screen.
Alan F <afiggatt1@[EMA  2008-05-01 23:02:30 
Re: Displaying 1080i on 720p native screen.
"Slitheen" <  2008-05-02 00:07:38 
Re: Displaying 1080i on 720p native screen.
Jan B <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-02 06:43:37 
Re: Displaying 1080i on 720p native screen.
"Slitheen" <  2008-05-02 15:39:57 
Re: Displaying 1080i on 720p native screen.
Jer <gdunn@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-02 10:04:13 
Re: Displaying 1080i on 720p native screen.
"Slitheen" <  2008-05-02 17:59:36 
Re: Displaying 1080i on 720p native screen.
Jer <gdunn@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-02 12:25:29 
Re: Displaying 1080i on 720p native screen.
Jan B <nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 08:42:21 
Re: Displaying 1080i on 720p native screen.
"WGD" <wgd.r  2008-05-01 23:10:51 
Re: Displaying 1080i on 720p native screen.
Alan F <afiggatt1@[EMA  2008-05-02 02:41:36 
Re: Displaying 1080i on 720p native screen.
nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-02 04:11:26 
Re: Displaying 1080i on 720p native screen.
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-02 03:42:32 
Re: Displaying 1080i on 720p native screen.
Tim <jmeth111@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 16:35:44 

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