Re: Blu-ray Numbers Too Low To Release

"Tom" <noway@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Morgan" <Nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > At the minute yes.  But  CD-R were expensive when they
> > first got released, DVD-R the same.  Also you have to
> > admit that ****table drives and Flash RAM drives aren't
> > really in the same category as BR, DVD or CD.  I have a
> > very compact 4GB USB flash drive on my key ring.  It's
> > the best £35 (as it was at a the time) I ever spent
> > because I never go anywhere without my keys so I always
> > have a good amount of storage space in my pocket if I
> > need it. For that use I'd back flash memory over any
> > other medium.   However I wouldn't use Flash RAM for a
> > system back up. and I wouldn't use it if I was make a
> > copy of some large files for someone else.  BR is still
> > pretty much a fledgling technology and as you say still
> > expensive. But so were CD-R and DVD-R media when they
> > were first conceived. BR will drop in price as they
> > did.
>
> Don't even  mention DVD-R, and even CD-R. without the
> fact that DVDs can be rewritten (DVD-RW), and they are
> more cost efftecive and fool-proof. BR isn't, you screw
> up a burn, you eat about a $10 disc that can no longer be
> used.

True for CD in modern terms yes. But when CD-R was a new technology it had

the same problem. I remember my first year of University we were
discussing 
CD burners and the consensus was get a Plextor because they had
"Burn-proof" 
technology which prevented buffer underrun so you wouldn't waste as many 
discs on misburns.  BR is new. Writable BR is even newer (I didn't even 
realise that the were available yet).  For a fair comparison you have to 
look at DVD-R  and  CD-R in an historical context including reliability
and 
cost.

> But you didn't justify your stance of how it will be the
> PC storage medium, I can see it for use maybe for the TV
> medium for now. It won't be used en mass for PCs (except
> for the tech efficionados) because it will never be cost
> efftective. Burning DVDs is still more preferred for just
> the casual person who needs some thing stored for future
> use or for the need of a little space. If they need way
> more, an external HDD is much more cheaper and efficient.

At the moment for pure back-up purposes yes.  But think of the future,
think 
of the drop in price.

> If you're talking about a system backup, a DVD is still
> very effective (as even an external HDD),  because
> imaging software technology allows for whole operatings
> system to be able to be backed on just one disc,

But what if you want to back up more?  If I back up my system I want over 
80GB if I included my music. As broadband speed increase downloaded able 
media is going to become more common place. people are going to want to
back 
this stuff up, the amount of space needed for the backup is only going to 
increase.


> that
> cost about $2 for a DVD-RW disc, and the data transfer
> rate (whic is now up to 20X for DVD) is still way faster
> than the fastest BR burners, which still don't have the
> re-writeable discs.. How many people really need to burn
> 25 gigs of data for storage anyway? They would be steered
> to external HDDs, except by the disengenuous retail
> outlets.

For backup I would choose an optical medium over a magnetic one any day of

the week.  Like I've said a couple of time. I'm not saying BR is the best 
(or even a good) option at the moment. But it's the future because the
price 
is going to drop.

> I'll even add this, that SSDs (solid state drives) will
> probably be more cost effective than BR on PC when the
> time comes. The actual hardware to accept the device (for
> the PC) is pretty cheap, but the storage device itself as
> of right now is rather expensive, but the price is
> falling by the month. A 32 gig device can have data
> written to it, about as fast as your PC can process the
> data, and it has no moving parts.

But BR will also drop in price. This is my point.  Once BR becomes common 
place it will be cheaper then magnetic or solid state storage.