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Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of System-M?

by phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED] May 2, 2008 at 11:10 PM

In alt.tv.tech.hdtv Albert Manfredi <bert22306@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

| On May 1, 9:26?pm, Bruce Tomlin <bruce#fanboy....@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
| 
|> I'm wondering if this is a coincidence, or if an adjacent analog
channel
|> (even from the same antenna farm) really does make an ATSC station hard
|> to tune in.
|>
|> If this is true, then the shut-off can't come any too soon for me.
| 
| Yup. It's not a coincidence. Analog stations tend to transmit at much
| higher ERP than their digital counterparts, and this was especially
| true in the early days of the transition. So what happens is that
| receivers with less than ideal selectivity, as many of the older
| models are, will detect the strong analog adjacent channel and clamp
| down their AGC. This will then cause the much weaker digital station
| you're tuned to disappear in the noise level.

OTOH, if you put 2 stations on _adjacent_ channels, with the same ERP,
then
they should be fine transmitting from the same tower.

Apparently it takes quite a strong signal to do that.  Even though WPBY-TV
would boom right into my home in my teen to college years, I could still
get WOSU-TV just fine ... weak, but fine ... on a TV made around 1968.
WBPY-TV (then known as WMUL-TV) is on 33, and WOSU-TV is on 34.

Maybe it is the case that today's tuners, being all digital in design even
for analog signals, might have traded off more of the selectivity and are
actually worse.

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"Max Power" <  2008-04-30 22:17:27 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-01 05:42:24 
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"Netmask" <n  2008-05-01 09:38:24 
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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-01 10:45:04 
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"Netmask" <n  2008-05-01 11:11:34 
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G-squared <stratus46@[  2008-05-01 07:32:44 
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Jer <gdunn@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-01 10:02:18 
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Bruce Tomlin <bruce#fa  2008-05-01 19:54:19 
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"Sal M. Onella"  2008-05-01 23:41:11 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
Bruce Tomlin <bruce#fa  2008-05-03 17:33:55 
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"Richard C." &l  2008-05-08 12:45:32 
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Albert Manfredi <bert2  2008-05-01 11:28:49 
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Jer <gdunn@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-01 15:21:36 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
Bruce Tomlin <bruce#fa  2008-05-01 20:26:07 
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gordonb.7vies@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-01 21:49:38 
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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-02 06:46:59 
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"Sal M. Onella"  2008-05-01 23:37:43 
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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-02 19:44:57 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
"Sal M. Onella"  2008-05-02 21:44:57 
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Doug Smith W9WI <w9wi@  2008-05-03 22:11:25 
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"Sal M. Onella"  2008-05-03 21:18:40 
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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-04 05:51:26 
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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-04 05:46:55 
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Doug Smith W9WI <w9wi@  2008-05-04 07:56:17 
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Doug Smith W9WI <w9wi@  2008-05-04 20:46:11 
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nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-07 04:58:54 
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Dennis Majewicz <denni  2008-05-02 11:47:48 
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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-02 19:50:40 
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Dennis Majewicz <denni  2008-05-03 01:06:45 
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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 05:03:17 
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Albert Manfredi <bert2  2008-05-01 15:13:40 
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Jer <gdunn@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-01 17:45:27 
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Albert Manfredi <bert2  2008-05-02 13:30:05 
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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-02 23:10:27 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sy
Bruce Tomlin <bruce#fa  2008-05-03 17:16:40 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sy
Doug Smith W9WI <w9wi@  2008-05-03 22:07:00 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sy
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-04 17:46:20 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
Bruce Tomlin <bruce#fa  2008-05-03 17:16:07 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of
Albert Manfredi <bert2  2008-05-02 15:50:55 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sy
Dennis Majewicz <denni  2008-05-03 01:47:03 
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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 05:07:01 
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G-squared <stratus46@[  2008-05-02 22:24:28 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of
Albert Manfredi <bert2  2008-05-03 14:40:14 
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G-squared <stratus46@[  2008-05-04 01:28:34 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
"Sal M. Onella"  2008-05-04 22:42:12 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of
G-squared <stratus46@[  2008-05-05 00:27:43 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of
dmaster <dan.woj@[EMAI  2008-05-05 10:15:09 

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