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Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of System-M?

by "Sal M. Onella" <salmonella@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 3, 2008 at 09:18 PM

"Doug Smith W9WI" <w9wi@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:pan.2008.05.04.03.11.23.250029@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Fri, 02 May 2008 21:44:57 -0700, Sal M. Onella wrote:
> > KCAL and KCBS are a duopoly, that is owned by the same company.  I had
heard
> > that on Day Zero KCBS-DT might move to Ch 9 and KCAL-DT might stay on
Ch
43.
> > KCBS-DT must vacate Ch 60 on Day Zero and going digital on Ch 2 would
seem
> > to be a bad move, given the known low-band noise problems.  We shal
see.
>
> KCAL-DT has filed to return to channel 9 on Transition Day.  Same tower
as
> their current analog facility but it looks like they're going to use a
> different antenna.  (a directional antenna 7m lower than their existing
> analog one)  The permit hasn't been issued yet but 9 is their assigned
> channel in the FCC's post-transition channel table.
>
> KCBS-DT has received a permit to take over KCAL-DT's channel 43 facility
> on Transition Day.  The power will increase about 10% but the same
antenna
> will be used.
>
> (one might guess that will confuse those viewers who don't realize they
> need to rescan: suddenly, when they punch up channel 9 on their remotes
> they're going to get channel 2!)
>

Thanks, Doug.

I saw that as another possibility and it means my life is just a skosh
more
complicated, since I need a phased pair of antennas to put a local LPTV
outlet in a deep null on Ch 43 if I want to keep KCBS-DT as reliable as it
has been on Ch 60.  KCAL-DT is only "in" about 20 percent of the time due
to
the co-channel interference.

I already made one phased antenna pair for Ch 36 so I can get KNBC-DT.
(It's the same situation -- analog LPTV co-channel.  It works perfectly.
The LPTV disappears.)

My house already looks like a pincu****on with antennas, so I guess another
mast won't collapse the roof.  (I need a tower.)

I wonder ... if I spaced the antenna pair for a frequency mid-way between
Ch
36 and Ch 43, would partial phase cancellation be satisfactory on both 36
and 43?  I doubt it but it's cheap to try.



"Sal"
(really KD6VKW)
 




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"Max Power" <  2008-04-30 22:17:27 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-01 05:42:24 
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"Netmask" <n  2008-05-01 09:38:24 
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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-01 10:45:04 
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"Netmask" <n  2008-05-01 11:11:34 
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G-squared <stratus46@[  2008-05-01 07:32:44 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sy
Jer <gdunn@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-01 10:02:18 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
Bruce Tomlin <bruce#fa  2008-05-01 19:54:19 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
"Sal M. Onella"  2008-05-01 23:41:11 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
Bruce Tomlin <bruce#fa  2008-05-03 17:33:55 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
"Richard C." &l  2008-05-08 12:45:32 
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Albert Manfredi <bert2  2008-05-01 11:28:49 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sy
Jer <gdunn@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-01 15:21:36 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
Bruce Tomlin <bruce#fa  2008-05-01 20:26:07 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
gordonb.7vies@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-01 21:49:38 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-02 06:46:59 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
"Sal M. Onella"  2008-05-01 23:37:43 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-02 19:44:57 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
"Sal M. Onella"  2008-05-02 21:44:57 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
Doug Smith W9WI <w9wi@  2008-05-03 22:11:25 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
"Sal M. Onella"  2008-05-03 21:18:40 
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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-04 05:51:26 
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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-04 05:46:55 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
Doug Smith W9WI <w9wi@  2008-05-04 07:56:17 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
Doug Smith W9WI <w9wi@  2008-05-04 20:46:11 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-07 04:58:54 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sy
Dennis Majewicz <denni  2008-05-02 11:47:48 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sy
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-02 19:50:40 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sy
Dennis Majewicz <denni  2008-05-03 01:06:45 
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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 05:03:17 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of
Albert Manfredi <bert2  2008-05-01 15:13:40 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sy
Jer <gdunn@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-01 17:45:27 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of
Albert Manfredi <bert2  2008-05-02 13:30:05 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sy
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-02 23:10:27 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sy
Bruce Tomlin <bruce#fa  2008-05-03 17:16:40 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sy
Doug Smith W9WI <w9wi@  2008-05-03 22:07:00 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sy
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-04 17:46:20 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
Bruce Tomlin <bruce#fa  2008-05-03 17:16:07 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of
Albert Manfredi <bert2  2008-05-02 15:50:55 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sy
Dennis Majewicz <denni  2008-05-03 01:47:03 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sy
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-03 05:07:01 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of
G-squared <stratus46@[  2008-05-02 22:24:28 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of
Albert Manfredi <bert2  2008-05-03 14:40:14 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of
G-squared <stratus46@[  2008-05-04 01:28:34 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of Sys
"Sal M. Onella"  2008-05-04 22:42:12 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of
G-squared <stratus46@[  2008-05-05 00:27:43 
Re: How will the US local area stations commerate the end of
dmaster <dan.woj@[EMAI  2008-05-05 10:15:09 

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