Re: Surge / Ground / Lightning

w_tom wrote:
> On May 6, 1:00 pm, bud-- <remove.budn...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>> w_  can't understand his own hanford link.  It is about "some older
>> model" power strips and says overheating was fixed with a revision to
>> UL1449 that required thermal disconnects. That was 1998.
> 
>   Bud will only challenge the hanford link because he cannot challenge
> those 'scary pictures'.

w_ only provides those ‘scary pictures’ because he has no valid 
technical arguments.

Still missing - a link to any source that says UL listed plug-in 
suppressors made after 1998 are a problem.

> Another is a fire marshal describing
> why plug-in protectors can create house fires. 

The fire marshal said:  "More modern surge suppressors are manufactured 
with a Thermal Cut Out mounted near, or in contact with, the MOV that is 
intended shut the unit down overheating occurs.[sic]"

> 
>   And then Bud posts a half fact.  UL1449 was created on 28 Aug 1985 -
> not in 1998 as Bud claims.

It is really hard to understand how someone could be stupid enough to 
not know the difference between  a creation date and a revision date.

 From w_'s hanford link:
"Underwriters Laboratories Standard UL 1449, 2nd Edition, Standard For 
Safety For Transient Voltage Surge Suppressors, now requires thermal 
protection in power strips. This protection is provided by a thermal 
fuse located next to the MOV."

The fire marshal says the same thing (above)

If w_ had any knowledge of the field he would know UL 1449, 2nd Ed was 
effective in 1998.

> Bud refuses to post a
> specification for one simple reason.

Posted often and ignored. Another of w_'s favorite  lies.

> In reply, this is
> what Bud is really promoting - these 'scary pictures':
>  http://www.hanford.gov/rl/?page=556&parent=554

The lie repeated. But w_ is a fan of Josef Goebbels and thinks if you 
repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it.


Still missing - a link to another lunatic that says plug-in suppressors 
are NOT effective.

Still missing – answers to embarrassing questions:
- Why do the only 2 examples of surge suppression in the IEEE guide use 
plug-in suppressors?
- Why does the NIST guide says plug-in suppressors are "the easiest 
solution"?
- Why do all but one of w's "responsible manufacturers" make plug-in 
suppressors?
- Why does SquareD say in addition to their "whole house" suppressors 
"electronic equipment may need additional protection" from plug-in 
suppressors.
- Why aren't airplanes cra****ng daily when they get hit by lightning (or 
do they drag an earthing chain)?

–-
bud--