Re: Is Oppo the way to go?

On Wed, 07 May 2008 08:09:39 -0500 Jer <gdunn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
| Tim wrote:
|> Chet Bosco wrote:
|> 
|>> In article <fvrbq302j5t@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
|>> says...
|>>
|>>> On Wed, 07 May 2008 00:54:31 GMT Fishface <invalid@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
|>>> | Theodore Bundy wrote:
|>>> | |>I want to get an upconverting DVD player that will play DVD+R
discs.
|>>> |> Reading reviews seems to cite the Oppo as doing the best job.  Any
|>>> |> thoughts on competing products?  TIA.
|>>> | | I don't know, but the cheap upconverting Sony I got at Costco for

|>>> half
|>>> | the price looks fine to me and came with an HDMI cable.  Only 
|>>> upconverts
|>>> | via the HDMI connection.
|>>> And what will an HD TV do if it gets video that is NOT upconverted?
|>>>
|>>>
|>>
|>>
|>> They will upconvert the signal themselves.  Upconversion in the player

|>> is only of any benefit if the TV, monitor, or projector doesn't do it 
|>> by itself.
|>>
|>> CB
|> 
|> Do all TVs upconvert equally? Do some TVs upconvert better than others?
|> Is it possible that upconverting DVD players do a better job, with more

|> expensive and more sophisticated hardware and software?
|> 
|> All upconverting is not the same, otherwise you would buy the cheapest 
|> upcoverting DVD player.
| 
| 
| That's a good point, my TVs will upconvert ANY signal input, and the BD 
| player will upconvert SD material before sending it to the TV.  I've 
| tried both and can see no difference between the two.
| 
| Full Disclosure:  It should be noted that the BD player here will output

| 24fps/30fps material natively, and the TV can display 24fps/30fps 
| material natively, and the AVR will do all this and more.

I'm curious what model will display 24fps natively.  I'm looking for an
LCD
display that will do so.  Actually, I'm looking for one for a computer.
But even seeing a TV that would lets me know the TV engineers have finally
figured it out.


| Further, it should also be noted that not all DVD players will output 
| 24fps natively, but will use a feature to convert 24fps to 30fps, often 
| called "3:2 pulldown" for displays that only do 30fps - best implemented

| with a Faroudja engine (hint: Oppo), IMO, although there are other 
| technologies also using the '3:2 pulldown' moniker.

Which, of course, sucks.  OTOH, some TVs re****t an ability to detect and
fix the 3:2 pulldown.  They'd have to display at some multiple of 24fps to
achieve that.  Some do work at 120fps whoch could.


| Most im****tantly, do your own research.  Don't hang on flashy words used

| by sales droids, learn enough about the technology to make your own 
| informed decisions predicated on your own situation.

And you can't depend on the company web site; they are created by
marketing
droids, who are as bad as sales droids.

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