Re: Is Oppo the way to go?

phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Wed, 07 May 2008 15:14:43 -0500 Jer <gdunn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> | phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> |> On Wed, 07 May 2008 07:35:46 -0500 Jer <gdunn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> |> | phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> |> |> On Wed, 07 May 2008 00:54:31 GMT Fishface <invalid@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> |> |> | Theodore Bundy wrote:
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> |> |> |>I want to get an upconverting DVD player that will play DVD+R
discs.
> |> |> |> Reading reviews seems to cite the Oppo as doing the best job. 
Any
> |> |> |> thoughts on competing products?  TIA.
> |> |> | 
> |> |> | I don't know, but the cheap upconverting Sony I got at Costco
for half
> |> |> | the price looks fine to me and came with an HDMI cable.  Only
upconverts
> |> |> | via the HDMI connection. 
> |> |> 
> |> |> And what will an HD TV do if it gets video that is NOT
upconverted?
> |> |> 
> |> | 
> |> | 
> |> | The Sony TVs here will convert to their native 1080p resolution
using 
> |> | 24fps/30fps with 120Hz frame rate where necessary.
> |> 
> |> At what rate is the LCD grid being updated (this question does not
apply to
> |> non-LCD displays)?
> |> 
> |> What I want to know is why can't they simply make the TV update the
LCD grid
> |> at exactly the frame rate the incoming video has (as long as the
video frame
> |> rate does not exceed the rate the TV is able to process ... which
should be
> |> at least as wide as from 23.976fps to 60fps).
> |> 
> | 
> | 
> | The Sony display here has a 120Hz "Motionoflow" feature, which
provides 
> | a 60fps 'refresh' rate.  This can be hobbled if I want, and I tested 
> | without it using 30fps SD DVD material and noticed the "bumble bee" 
> | effect in fast motion frames, presumably an artifact of the
upconversion 
> | process.  The instant I re-activated Motionflow, all was mucho
bettero.
> 
> Sounds like a motion interpolation feature.  Fast moving content needs
to
> be recorded ay 60fps.


Do any native 60fps DVD's exist?  I don't think I've seen one if they do.


> 
> 
> | What I don't know is whether Motionflow is still technically active
for 
> | 24fps DVD material, and if so, why?  I guess I need to go dig out a
few 
> | 24fps DVD's and test without Motionflow active.
> 
> It could still be.  Why not?

I wouldn't think it is necessary with 24fps native display capability. 
I've been thinking 120Hz was used for 30fps material to amp up to 60fps. 
  Maybe I'm just confused.  Again.  <scratching head>

> 
> What I think we need are some specific test DVDs and BR-DVDs that verify
how
> things behave at various formats and frame rates.
> 


That would be a sooper deal!


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jer
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