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Re: HDTV phantom power drain

by phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED] May 8, 2008 at 02:36 AM

On Wed, 07 May 2008 18:41:06 -0400 RobertVA
<robert_c72athotmail@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
| phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
|> On Wed, 07 May 2008 08:10:39 -0400 Agent_C
<Agent-C-hates-spam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
|> | On Tue, 06 May 2008 22:32:08 -0600, root <no@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
|> | 
|> |>I shut the HDTV off (Philips 42PFL7422D/37) first with the remote,
then with a power strip to eliminate power usage when I'm not using it.
Any drawbacks to this, other than a slower turn on time? I am concerned
about the electronics blowing out because there seems to be some sort of
trauma to the thing when the plug is pulled.
|> | 
|> | I'm a firm believer in using electronics the way they were
engineered.
|> | In the case of most all flat panel TV's, that means leaving them
|> | plugged in and using the power button on the unit, or the remote
|> | control to turn them on.
|> 
|> I'm a firm believer in not using electronics the way they were
mis-engineered.
|> I'm also a firm believer in using energy efficiently, and not using
when it is
|> not needed.
|> 
|> 
|> | In the case of my Sony, it avoids having to go through a PITA
|> | initialization routine every time its cold started.
|> 
|> In the case of Sony, it is clearly very poorly engineered, especially
at the
|> software level, if it can't complete its bootup and initialization
withn in
|> second or two.  It doesn't need to be starting up a web database.
|> 
|> 
|> | I think FAR too much is made of this tiny trickle of power they
|> | consume while not in use, and it's often grossly overstated. For
|> | example, I read in a brochure from Con Edison, that some appliances
|> | use 'as mush as 25%' of their power while not in use; that's just
|> | patently false and misleading.
|> 
|> A few actually do use as much as 25%.  Most use about 5% to 10%.
|> 
|> A friend of mine with a large CRT-type TV found that his TV was using
65 watts
|> of power when off, and about 350 watts when on.
|> 
|> Would you leave a 60-watt lightbulb on that was not lightning up
anything that
|> is used most of the time, just so you'd have the light just a bit
quicker than
|> if you had to turn it on by hand, a few times a day you go into that
room?
| 
| If "a bit quicker" meant moving furniture around to reach the outlet to 
| plug it in and again to unplug it when I'm through with the lamp I 
| would. With some electronics this would instead involve scanning 
| channels for a digital tuner, maintaining the contents of a program 
| guide, waiting to reload the decryption authorizations for a 
| cable/satellite STB, setting a clock or charging an MP3 player.

I've yet to see a lamp, such as a table lamp, where the integrated on/off
switch doesn't really turn it all the way off.  So you would not need to
do that with a lamp.  Just turn the lamp off and it's off.

FYI, many, but not all, computer PSUs have a switch on the back that
really
turns them off.  Does yours?  Do you use it when turning your computer
off?

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HDTV phantom power drain
root <no@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-05-06 22:32:08 
Re: HDTV phantom power drain
Agent_C <Agent-C-hates  2008-05-07 08:10:39 
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Steve Urbach <dragonsc  2008-05-07 09:37:14 
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Alan F <afiggatt1@[EMA  2008-05-07 19:36:41 
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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-07 21:37:26 
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RobertVA <robert_c72at  2008-05-07 18:41:06 
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phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-08 02:36:37 
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RobertVA <robert_c72at  2008-05-08 04:22:37 
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