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Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels

by phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED] May 19, 2008 at 06:41 PM

On 19 May 2008 10:26:32 GMT cjdaytonjrnospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
| phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
| 
|> However, once they have approval from the locals based on my zip code
to
|> allow me to watch locals outside of the associated DMA, then they could
|> let me get the ones from Pittsburgh.  When I read the SHVERA law, it
did
|> not require them to deliver New York or LA.  If they provided
Pittsburgh
|> to me, I see no law that is violated.  And they can as I am well inside
|> the spot beam Pittsburgh stations are carried on.  They are choosing,
by
|> whatever internal company reason that happens to be, to not do this. 
So
|> I do blame them both for this.
| 
| I doubt your local stations would want you to get nearby
| locals if they allow you to get ones other than theirs.
| Besides, I am not convinced that Directv could give you
| Pittsburgh if they wanted to, although I have not looked
| at the options myself.

The stations that are in my DMA are snowy on analog and unreliable on
digital
due to being separated by a hill.  The distant stations are receivable due
to
the side of the hill I am on facing in that direction (east).  It would
require
quite an excessive antenna height to get them.

The FCC maintains a list of "significantly viewed stations".  However,
they
only detail it by county.  If they were to detail it to the street level
and
not include stations provided by cable, then channels 7 and 9 would not be
in the list for my location.  Nevertheless, they do include Pittsburgh
stations
in that list as it is for my whole county.

I looked at the spot beam patterns, and the channel list by beam, and I am
in
the one that serves stations ranging from Pittsburgh to Cleveland to
Cincinnati
to Charleston WV.  So I already know it is technically possible to get
them.

What I inquired about with both DBS companies is what stations I would get
if
I had the letters from the TV stations they think I should get, giving
approval
to have distant locals delivered.  They told me they could only give me
NYC and
LA (both, in fact).  I asked about Pittsburgh and they said they do not
deliver
out of areas locals other than NYC or LA.

Channels 7 and 9 are not relayed by satellite at all.  If they were, they
would
still not deliver Pittsburgh simultaneously even those Comcast does
(channels
2, 4, 11, and 13 from Pittsburgh are on Comcast).

If they would provide Pittsburgh then I would pursue obtaining those
letters.
The fact that they refuse to deliver Pittsburgh under any cir***stances is
why
my finger of blame points at them ... both of them.

So my only option is to put up an antenna to get the stations from
Pittsburgh
over the air.  I could get 7 and 9 with additional antennas up higher, but
I
would choose not to do so.  To get Pittsburgh, the antenna won't even need
to
be above the roofline because of the broad eastward view I have; it can be
on
the side of the house (a "flat" bow-tie like the CM-4228 would be fine on
the
side of a wall).

Of course there is the illegal option of acquiring a hacked receiver and
just
watching all the locals carried on both beams.  Someone here suggested
signing
up with DBS using an address located in nearby PA.  That would also be
illegal.

My plans right now are to put up the OTA antenna and explore FTA options. 
If
I go with FTA I'll see if that satisifies my limited TV viewing desires
before
going with either of the DBS providers, or expanding my Comcast (currently
is
basic service, which gets me TV from Pittsburgh in SD analog).

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 23 Posts in Topic:
Dish adding 22 new HD channels
"Tantalust" <  2008-05-13 06:45:47 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
dave@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-13 19:56:58 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
"Tantalust" <  2008-05-14 01:23:52 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
Sandy A. Nicolaysen <s  2008-05-14 04:06:49 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
"Richard W. Solomon,  2008-05-16 21:19:42 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-14 10:09:01 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
Jer <gdunn@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-14 09:10:35 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-14 18:36:57 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
Jer <gdunn@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-14 18:38:01 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-15 11:37:20 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
HD Matt <nospammbode@[  2008-05-15 09:48:20 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
jack ak <akjack@[EMAIL  2008-05-15 10:43:46 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-15 20:53:21 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
dave@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 22:03:59 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
"www.locoworks.com&q  2008-05-15 05:04:24 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
jack ak <akjack@[EMAIL  2008-05-15 06:56:26 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-15 20:48:57 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
cjdaytonjrnospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-15 21:59:49 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-19 03:34:06 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
cjdaytonjrnospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-19 10:26:32 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-19 18:41:08 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
cjdaytonjrnospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-20 01:38:00 
Re: Dish adding 22 new HD channels
phil-news-nospam@[EMAIL P  2008-05-15 20:46:52 

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